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	<title>Comments on: Let there be no difference made</title>
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		<title>By: Erwin</title>
		<link>http://www.erwinhessle.com/blog/?p=112&#038;cpage=1#comment-375</link>
		<dc:creator>Erwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But isn’t the desire to change something itself based on an artificial ideal of what should be?&lt;/i&gt;

No, for two reasons:

1. Change is inevitable; and
2. The nature of the will is dynamic.

As an elementary example: &quot;I want to make toast&quot;. I do not desire to cause this change because I am somehow unsatisfied with a world where I&#039;m not making toast all the time, but because I&#039;m hungry, and I feel like some toast. You can always twist things and word it &quot;I want to change the world so it&#039;s more in line with an image I have of a world where I&#039;m making toast&quot;, but the motivation is not coming from a desire to realise an &lt;i&gt;ideal&lt;/i&gt;; it&#039;s coming from the fact that that&#039;s just want you want to do right now. One does not have to have an ideal in order to initiate change.

In a sense, we can reduce the task of &quot;discovering the will&quot; to a task of determining which potential changes are the ones that one just wants to do, and which potential changes arise from &quot;an artificial ideal of what should be&quot;. More generally, if you cease causing all the changes that you want to cause for a &lt;i&gt;reason&lt;/i&gt;, then all you&#039;ll be left with is those changes that you want to cause for their own sake, and the sum total of all of these is your will.

To oversimplify slightly, the will is what you&#039;d do if you stopped doing all the things you do because you think you ought to, if you stopped doing all the things you do in order to bring the world closer to your imaginary ideal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But isn’t the desire to change something itself based on an artificial ideal of what should be?</i></p>
<p>No, for two reasons:</p>
<p>1. Change is inevitable; and<br />
2. The nature of the will is dynamic.</p>
<p>As an elementary example: &#8220;I want to make toast&#8221;. I do not desire to cause this change because I am somehow unsatisfied with a world where I&#8217;m not making toast all the time, but because I&#8217;m hungry, and I feel like some toast. You can always twist things and word it &#8220;I want to change the world so it&#8217;s more in line with an image I have of a world where I&#8217;m making toast&#8221;, but the motivation is not coming from a desire to realise an <i>ideal</i>; it&#8217;s coming from the fact that that&#8217;s just want you want to do right now. One does not have to have an ideal in order to initiate change.</p>
<p>In a sense, we can reduce the task of &#8220;discovering the will&#8221; to a task of determining which potential changes are the ones that one just wants to do, and which potential changes arise from &#8220;an artificial ideal of what should be&#8221;. More generally, if you cease causing all the changes that you want to cause for a <i>reason</i>, then all you&#8217;ll be left with is those changes that you want to cause for their own sake, and the sum total of all of these is your will.</p>
<p>To oversimplify slightly, the will is what you&#8217;d do if you stopped doing all the things you do because you think you ought to, if you stopped doing all the things you do in order to bring the world closer to your imaginary ideal.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.erwinhessle.com/blog/?p=112&#038;cpage=1#comment-374</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mentioned:

&quot;The acceptance of impressions as they are in no way suggests that the Thelemite should be passive, because things are changed by changing them, not by wishing they were different and pining about it. The fact that one wishes to cause a specific change does not mean that the Thelemite cannot accept or appreciate things as they are right now any more than it means he cannot accept or appreciate them for what they will be once he’s changed them.&quot;

But isn&#039;t the desire to change something itself based on an artificial ideal of what should be? For example, I don&#039;t like the idea of our government listening in on my phone calls, or watching me from the surveillance camera on every street corner. It is an artificial value judgment that produces that dislike. But if I didn&#039;t make that value judgment, I would neither dislike it or like it, and if I neither disliked it or liked it, why would I even think about changing it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mentioned:</p>
<p>&#8220;The acceptance of impressions as they are in no way suggests that the Thelemite should be passive, because things are changed by changing them, not by wishing they were different and pining about it. The fact that one wishes to cause a specific change does not mean that the Thelemite cannot accept or appreciate things as they are right now any more than it means he cannot accept or appreciate them for what they will be once he’s changed them.&#8221;</p>
<p>But isn&#8217;t the desire to change something itself based on an artificial ideal of what should be? For example, I don&#8217;t like the idea of our government listening in on my phone calls, or watching me from the surveillance camera on every street corner. It is an artificial value judgment that produces that dislike. But if I didn&#8217;t make that value judgment, I would neither dislike it or like it, and if I neither disliked it or liked it, why would I even think about changing it?</p>
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